Except for the part where he gave Meghan McCain any credence. The more you want to engage or help, the more you will get rejected... the "getting too close for comfort" factor kicks in immediately when you break into their superficial comfort zone. If you are dead, then it doesn’t matter. That said, only 71 percent of those asked were able to properly identify either. It was an active campaign to bring communism and collectivization to the backward serfs. Mao’s Red Guard is recorded as having forced ‘enemies of the State’ to eat their own family members, an embellishment of basic barbarism that even the SS didn’t come up with. And all I want to do is control everyone in the country so that I can provide those things. And supporting it makes you a useful idiot. But that almost seems worse. If you have to straw man out of the gate, you’re already wrong. That’s why Trotsky said ‘screw this’ and moved to Mexico.”. Once again, a superb Harsanyi piece. This is irrelevant. mtrueman|7.27.18 @ 2:33PM|# “I noticed the chart didn’t include the millions of aboriginal new worlders who were slaughtered by European Christians a few hundred years back.”. Do you guys never get tired of debating how many unicorns can dance on the head of a dick? These information has been dissiminated, and that's how I began to talk about her and my other family members because there was an accusation of nepotism. At least you got the “pathetic” part right, loser, RE: Sorry If You’re Offended, but Socialism Leads to Misery and Destitution. I think he’s saying that they didn’t bother to remove it, and they’re doing fine. The whole point is that socialism is well intended. First, saying that an ideology “advocates the use of violence” in order to achieve its ends doesn’t mean that it is the only means of change it advocates. mtrueman|7.27.18 @ 1:19PM|# “I don’t think Stalin’s 40 million were planned or designed murders.”. Holmes' quote is the most famous and pervasive lazy cheat in American dialogue about free speech. Nearly half of American millennials would rather live in a socialist society than in a capitalist one, according to a YouGov poll. ” Most so-called democratic socialists?the qualifier affixed to denote that they live in a democratic system and have no choice but to ask for votes?aren’t consciously or explicitly endorsing violence or tyranny.” Except they have/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O4EHISQ6Uw, ” Most so-called democratic socialists?the qualifier affixed to denote that they live in a democratic system and have no choice but to ask for votes?aren’t consciously or explicitly endorsing violence or tyranny.”. Hayek rightly argued that was impossible. I could just watch fox and get the same BS. You see, murder requires intent and the evidence doesn’t suggest that Stalin intended to kill. ", Matt Welch Thank you to the liberals who can only post a couple sentences that only the dumbest of the human species would believe. The basement apartment generation has embraced the childhood-for-life model, and without thinking too hard, socialism looks like the best way forward. Free college paid for by government means that the government controls it through monopsony power alone let alone the inevitable escalations. Uh… why wouldn’t he, dumbass? These were government monopolies closer to socialism than capitalism I think. Arguing over those is angels on a pin. But they are not being forced in the name of religion. It’s true that not all socialism ends in the tyranny of Leninism or Stalinism or Maoism or Castroism or Ba’athism or Chavezism or the Khmer Rouge?only most of it does. Communist states espouse the principle of “from each according to their ability to each according to their needs” and end up committing oppression and mass murder against their own version an out group–the bourgeoisie, kulaks, etc. It's true that not all socialism ends in the tyranny of Leninism or Stalinism or Maoism or Castroism or Ba'athism or Chavezism or the Khmer Rouge—only most of it does. That’s not peaceful.That requires coercion. Why doesn’t socialism work? Tech companies should have the same freedom to choose their customers. During the same week we learned that the democratic socialist president of Nicaragua, Daniel Ortega, is accused of massacring hundreds of protesters whose economic futures have been decimated by his economic policies, Soledad O'Brien and writers at outlets ranging from GQ, to BuzzFeed, to the Daily Beast were telling McCain to cool her jets. Yes, intentions matter, the point I’ve repeatedly made throughout the thread. Reality doesn’t care about what was written in books 80 years ago, regardless the author. they were probably a bit preoccupied fighting off the Muslims in Spain, which the Muslims conquered less than 100 years after the Levant, By that point, they weren’t “fighting off” Muslims in Spain – they were invading polities that had been Muslim for hundreds of years and, as I point out in my post above, those battle lines were pretty far from being “Christian vs. Muslim.”. What I mean by the first sentence is that what prompted action at the start may have differed, but in the end it became a religious conquest. The Crusade against the “Cathars” happened over a hundred years later, and as a military action had more to do with the King of France taking out rivals in the South under the pretense that Count Raymond of Toulouse was a “heretic” (when he didn’t actually even support the so-called “Cathars” or care all that much about theology generally). I’ll note that the killings were especially brutal and sadistic, which ought to count for something. And I don’t think you can count China as socialism either. It is a basic principle of wisdom traditions. Did republicans stand up and declare it un-American? In return, they commonly call us “uncivilized”. You want to rip it all apart, replace the whole thing with a system where the right Top Men determine what each person’s ability is, and what each person’s need is. I have come to the conclusion that “socialism” is a magic word because communism came of age in a secretive society that had been so backwards and primitive that any industrialization seemed like a miracle, whereas Fascism and Nazism were in “civilized” countries so the disaster was obvious. We all believe in mixed economies, and the only debate to have is what the mix is. Stalin believed in communism, while Hitler was more interested in race, conquest and destiny. “…But none of them admit that capitalism has been the most effective way to eliminate poverty in history.”. The Intellectual Left defended Socialism (and Communism) because they desperately DESPERATELY want to be the “Experts’ in charge of everything. Funny how safe religion gets when it’s separated from state. Her Shrillness, for example (I know, in a sane world she wouldn’t be a ‘leading prospect’. “So if you can successfully explain how we achieve your preferred form of society without forcing anyone to do anything”. I'm not saying that the book gives you the right to make any diagnosis, but it is helpful if you want to know more about understanding a loved one with these characteristics; especially if they tend to "play the martyr" and think you are the problem when you've done everything you can to help them (and risk your own health and family) yet they refuse to take responsibility for themselves. This dark-haired female vocalist was born of Hitler’s ambition to create a master race. Such people are as stupid as those who view Congress selling legislation in return for campaign contributions as “a failure of capitalism”. And of course, the only way you can achieve equality (since most of the bullshit injustices you people cite are about upbringing and genetics, not patriarchal white supremacist conspiracies)is to fully regulate and control reproduction; take children away from single mothers, sterilize drug users, etc. At the root of our socialism is a profound commitment to democracy, as means and end. And where has a social democratic system ever been put in place? The puritans came to America out of religious motivation. Fucking moron. Thank you for showing the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc. Woodrow Wilson’s reputation and the relative obscurity if his vile Attorney General, Mitchell Palmer, is another thing the Progressive Lefts owes to Joe McCarthy. Kinda like yourself. McCain isn’t the most eloquent critic of socialism, but I don’t see the View inviting Thomas Sowell to co-host anytime soon. You don’t dip into limited foreign funds and buy food to distribute among them. Please anyone before you reply to this triggering post listen to this podcast and learn something please. You DESERVE to be a loser; don’t bother pestering us about it. If the American left wants to see socialism in action in Europe look to Greece, and Italy (on the verge of becoming Europe’s Venezuela) and to a lesser extent France and Portugal (both of which have recently begun free market reforms and some economic recovery). The Founder’s system, starting with the Declaration of Independence through to the Constitution is explicitly predicated on the liberty of the individual, the dangers inherent in any form of the state, and includes substantial checks on any sort of tyranny of the majority. ), “And why is anyone making assumptions about her degree of understanding of ANYTHING?”. tzx4, you are so right. creates MORE freedom, not less. The Ghazis who invaded India in 999 were Turks who had been enslaved by the Persians and made into border-guards, not unlike some of the confederated Germanic tribes under the Romans. It tended to come as a political maneuver if you needed to demonize some handy internal group and punish them in some way. It’s a technological innovation that people in every corner of the world have decided to keep around because it works. Trump is not at all anti Semitic. Fuck off, slaver. Damn that was good. Your definition of politics is a nasty authoritarian one. Those are typical stereotypes of a feminist who blames all traumas experienced on men only, without considering not all men are alike and women are never to blame for failing a relationship. Is Our Idea of the “Ideal” Body Malleable? So, religion is plenty murderous, just not Christianity particularly. “Ignore the good countries, remember the bad.” What complete garbage. You’re hopeless. Zero. If America were to become more like, say Denmark, it would mean massive reductions in corporation tax, and reduced tariffs. Keep it original, please. Thank you to the liberals who can’t comprehend shit past a couple seconds. The “so?” is that “Bernie was soundly routed” is not really an accurate statement. Communism/Socialism/Nazism seem to put the lie to this. Go ahead and throw up your hands when someone shouts SOCIALISM, but your own eyes should show that US health care is being undermined by the GOP. Of course, socialism exists on a spectrum, and even if we accept that the Nordic social-program experiments are the most benign iteration of collectivism, they are certainly not the only version. This comment system is awful. Is that like not acknowledging the difference between a serial killer who rapes you until you’re dead with a serial killer who rapes you eve after you’re dead? Mao’s Red Guard is recorded as having forced ‘enemies of the State’ to eat their own family members, an embellishment of basic barbarism that even the SS didn’t come up with. When you get right down to it, it doesn’t really matter whether the State’s goons are rounding up Jews because of their race or because of their economic Class. #cawfeetawk Tony, I give you the Democratic Socialists of America. It just so happened that at the same time Syria, Egypt and Libya were so discontented with Roman rule that they barely put up a fight, and the Arabs rode a wave of seemingly-divine victories. I consider you to be an idiot, David Harsany. Consider the poster=retarded DU troll boy who Mom let out of his playpen for a sippy cup of juice. Avoiding garbage like this is is why I subscribed. In any case, the Crusades killed. Another problem with socialism is they lose their sense of humor as they become more radicalized. Privacy Policy | talking point is only the second most preposterous one used by socialists. Can’t you just do this for me?” And even if you have been trying to talk about a problem of your own, a chronic manipulator may ignore it and use the opportunity to focus on his or her own pain. Did he think it was reezin or something else? “Hitler never could have come to power without the SA.”. It is very easy to label, and accuse someone of manipulation especially if it involves a complex issue. I don’t think the “I’m stupid” defense is an especially good look. Hi, Jim. In the first place it has seldom been tried (monarchs almost always need the military support of SOMEBODY,and that somebody is unlikely to ceded all power) so that awful examples aren’t widely available. Because if democratic socialism breeds misery, no one has told the people who have very successfully adopted it and who are among the world’s happiest people. Babylon 5 (1993–1998), created by J. Michael Straczynski, is a science fiction television epic about Babylon 5, an Earth-governed space station built to promote harmony between interstellar civilizations.It is unusual in its focus on a story arc which dominates the events through its five-year run. The wealth that was coming out of the New World and out of financing land wars in Asia drove the ability of monarchs to consolidate their powers into the embryos of the modern police state. No one can insult them because they are above small states of mind, and stronger than those things that may tend to produce small states of mind. Seems like we need a third word to describe those “generous welfare-state programs propped up by underlying vibrant capitalism” as opposed to stingy welfare-state programs with vibrant capitalism. The Soviet Union was not communist. BPD is a label put on women most often, or on anyone who is not capitulating to an abuser. The American left’s appeal to be more like them is disingenuous. The highest divorce rates occur on those with industrial jobs and rotating shifts. ^ Here is an example of fucking lefty ignoramuses. I clicked that and I was given a blank box to type in. Off you trot!” They still have a bigger house, can own a car, have more of everything! ?That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. You’re literally saying that it would be a better society if there were no crime. socialism is the leading man-made cause of death and misery in human existence. Ever heard of IKEA? If you want a principled condemnation of socialism, why do you care about the opinions of a wealthy, overpaid, self-righteous art history major whose only claim to fame are her last name and her hairstyle? This is dishonest at worst and unconvincing at best. I’m trying to get you to stop sending men-with-guns against those who haven’t initiated force against you. tl:dr: yes the Pope had it in for the Cathars, but he was fortunate in that the King of France also had it in for the Count of Toulouse and the King of Aragon. Why would Stalin reverse himself on these key issues if his intention was to starve the people? Just ask anyone from Cuba, North Korea or Venezuela. For instance, Danish-Americans have a measured living standard about 55 percent higher than the Danes in Denmark. Most of us can easily recognize the familiar and unpleasant experience of being emotionally manipulated. The preferred countries are clearly base on capitalist systems, with some redistribution thrown in to maximize freedom for the largest percentage of the populace. Introspection with the help of a true expert is the only way forward to the person you described, I think! mtrueman|7.28.18 @ 12:17PM|# “Sevo is a slave, didn’t you know? Lenin entrusted Jews to liquidate the Tsar and his family. We all know you’re interested in affecting peoples’ lives. Lefties are all for freedom, so long at they aren’t in power. It was the Brownshirts under Roehm who were instrumental in Hitler gaining power. Oh, and socialism has no successes. Object Play and High Protein Food Reduce Predation by Cats, My husband is like that -- I want divorce, 5 Reasons You Should Never Stop Daydreaming. Capitalism also leads to misery and destitution. You’re retarded. If you overlay incomes between the USA and Europe or other Anglosphere countries you will see that our working poor make as much money as middle class people in Europe… And live in bigger houses… And have bigger/nicer cars… And once you get into lower middle class on up we ALSO have a better healthcare system. I note that you did not contest what I said; you just dragged out your standard intellectually vapid tu quoque. Under socialism, the government owns the means of production. So, Fmontyr, are you gong to defend your position, or just rant and run? Socialism can’t say that! The Fascists (NAZI was a socialist political party) are just another brand of socialists. Please do not be offended - I use you … Stalin did nothing and actively traded grain and bodies for hard currency that the Soviet’s needed to pay for foreign experts to help them reach their great communist utopia. Did he think it was reezin or something else? Let’s substitute “crime” for “initiations of force” because they are easier to define and don’t change. The calls for censorship and a gulag (which they will call sensitivity education programs) will start up soon enough. Can’t argue with the point that our healthcare costs too much, but I’d certainly argue that their solutions are worse. Netherlands. “To be a socialist,” says Goebbels, “is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole.”. Spookk|7.27.18 @ 6:45PM|# “The stupidity of illiterates equating “socialism” and Democratic Socialism knows no bounds.”. Going right back to the founding of the Medieval Universities, if not farther. National Socialists had roads, schools, and police 3. You are exactly right – see my post above. Lessons from other countries are that it should be half the expense per person, cover everyone, and be at least highly regulated if not public. Our healthcare system is expensive for the same reason or cars are expensive: overregulation and rent seeking. These conflicts may have ultimately resulted in one religious group being sovereign over a different religious group with all that that entails, but that makes pretty much any conflict that has ever happened a “religious conquest.”. “Politics is about figuring out where the floor and ceiling should be.”. He was soundly routed in 2016 when he briefly joined the Democratic Party. . Read Red Famine (“Applebaum”) if you can read a book. They weren’t Jews or homos, for the most part. RobertK|7.29.18 @ 1:50PM|# “I’m curious what measures the author is using.”. In fact, as the Heritage Economic Freedom Index points out, both Denmark and Sweden have greater economic freedom than the USA, and all the Nordic Countries are in the top 26 in the world’s freest economies (USA is 18th). Its fair to count the crusades also, but note these were in response to the Muslim conquests. In the same way that, as I note in another post above (or below, I don’t remember now), the Spanish were “sort of” motivated by religion in colonizing the New World. Likely the person you are referring to is carrying an unresolved personal trauma from the past (or many times over multiple traumas that evolved from that initial trauma, trying to seek easy comfort) and doesn't want to relate to you on a deeper, more engaging level. Just butt out and be a good capitalist and stop whining all the time. Just ridicule mercilessly. john willow|7.28.18 @ 11:24AM|# “Here’s how it goes, sevo. Since society is an abstract, I definitely believe wealth should benefit those individuals who create it. Who gives a rat’s ass in who or what’s name the killing was done? Here’s how it goes, sevo. Your argument that this wasn’t intentional, that it was just collateral damage from attempting to run the country in a socialist manner, IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU. There are countless letters and reports that individuals made to him on the conditions in Ukraine and Kazakhstan. Personally I reject the term. When at rest the air is easily offended and will flee even from the fanning of a leaf, as love flees from the first thought. Oh man.). After that, you’d have to rank FDR and LBJ. But for the majority of the country, the only way to go is up with socialism. So defending socialism on its successes is forbidden, because that’s the rules you just made up. The dishonesty and stupidity of fucking lefties knows no bounds; you’re full of shit. That’s where you go wrong, by not getting back to the foundation on which those proclamations rest. NEXT: Movie Review: Mission: Impossible—Fallout. I’d say this is commonly true. Kinda omitted that, didn’t you? Once you begin to recognize this, you’ll see that these manipulation techniques do not usually emerge from malicious intent. Should it shock us to learn that, in addition to all his other failings, Karl Marx was a plagiarist? The defensiveness that emerges often causes them to shirk responsibility for their own behavior". duck life 2. When someone tries to trigger you by insulting you or by doing or saying something that irritates you, take a deep breath and switch off your ego. self-destruction of one of the world’s richest oil economies.” https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/07/16/how- venezuela-struck-it-poor-oil-energy-chavez/. I’m glad to have persuaded at least one here. “You’re Not Here for Me / You Disappoint Me!” “I’ve decided to divorce my wife. The spirit of entrepreneurialism is greater in Sweden than here, and you have a much better chance of achieving the American dream there. A mixed economy is best. I’ve read them already. Question: Why does a country suffering from “Late Capitalism” with a “nasty & brutish labor system” attract so many immigrants from countries that are by any definition more socialist? Stalin was not only aware what was happening, but he actively directed it. On that basis, Socialism doesn’t come off too well. The puritans came to America out of religious motivation. I started doing all the housework without being asked, and I was still paying my half od the bills! Well, we survived the holiday season, but maybe just barely. I am more offended by how ham fisted, clumsy, and audacious the fraud to elect him is than the idea of Joe Biden being president. Having the state take over the entire health care system could rightly be called a socialistic endeavor, but pooling local tax dollars to put books in a building is called local government. Practically the entire world is more socialist than the USA, so if that’s what you want just move to Canada or Europe or whatever. The libertarian-capitalists are getting scared since they know that we are in the stage of Late Capitalism, and Working Class folks are beginning to question whether the current nasty & brutish labor system will ever be able to get back to the Clintonian boom years (yes, the one that RAISED taxes on upper-income folks) as they keep hearing story after story of robots, driverless cars, etc. It is irresponsible and false to perpetuate this offhand labelling with such a stigmatizing and negating framework that enables throwing a serious and often misdiagnosed term around like it's nothing. State-supported fire, police, K-12 education, parks, etc. Hitler’s Germany had private business’s. For sure there was some of that, but it looks more like simple land and resource competition, perhaps with a good sprinkling of racism, not that it makes those deaths any less tragic. n. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy. The de ocrat party must be destroyed for those reasons. mtrueman|7.27.18 @ 9:23PM|# “Lenin was more intellectually disciplined than Hitler and had fewer sorts of schemes and flights of fancy than Hitler.” Says an imbecile who claims “Stalin didn’t really kill all those people!” Hint: your rep for historical ‘knowledge’ approximates those who find “Parade” magazine informative. You know. In other words, there is no private business. Sorry If You’re Offended, but Socialism Does Not Lead to Misery and Destitution. So did Russian businesses,. Any system that denigrates the sovereignty of the individual, that holds the individual exists merely to serve the interests of the State or of society, whether that be Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Trumpism or Clintonism, is collectivism and it’s literally inhuman. Or just an imbecile? http://jonjayray.tripod.com/engels.html. Their collectivism. You don’t dip into limited foreign funds and buy food to distribute among them. Murder swings on intent. The same way you rarely find people willing to advocate religious freedom for both Christians and Muslims, I find there’s very little overlap between the “The Crusades were just self-defense against the evil Muslims” crowd and the “The Crusades were an evil act of religious imperialism against the innocent Muslims” crowd. If you fight fire with fire, you just get more fire. Sorry to disappoint, but in the wake of the Bankster/Wall St. conflagration in 2009 ff, “socialist” Portugal reversed the neocon austerity policies demanded by “capitalist” northern European contries before loans were let. Its amazing to realize that countries like Egypt were once Christian. No WONDER there’s a crisis, soon to be followed by a “War on…”. http://www.oecd.org/els/soc/OE…..8pages.pdf. If you are old and dealing with common complaints like bad hips, cancer, and so on, you are basically SOL. On Stossel, I wonder if its some legal thing, as he has (apparently) some kind of separate production company. I have to agree with Jane Doe. If you were paying all the bills, I'd jump through every hoop you asked me to. “Nearly half of American millennials would rather live in a socialist society than in a capitalist one, according to a YouGov poll. The Founder’s system, starting with the Declaration of Independence through to the Constitution . Further evidence that having two different “religions of peace” in the same geographic region can get nasty. They will keep asking for higher taxes and more regulations until inequality disappears, which it never will-kind of like the equation for a hyperbola-for inequality to be zero, government will have to approach infinity. Does libertarianism get to defend itself on any of its successes? Here are real Socialist nations.. Not those which fell to dictatorships.. but those nations that actually are successful. And yet 20 million people wound up dead. But you cannot know it, feel its unfeeling touch, until you pause in your busy-ness, are still and poised and empty of your wanting and desiring. "manipulators are projecting their own concerns onto the world, finding evidence in it to support their preconceptions, and interpreting it through the lens of their own inner unhappiness. That much is obvious. If they choose to steal, assault, or murder (privately, or using the state), they ought to be forced (yes, forced) to repay what they’ve taken, pay back their debt. Fuck off, slavers, Your New Soviet Man is the slave you hope is yours. The Bolsheviks liquidated all that and much more. In fact, the country ruled from Hanoi is a pure example of the failure of Marxism. My expectation for the socialist dream in the US is not Norway or Venezuela, but something like Greece. The scope of possible state interference in markets goes way beyond this and that’s why in my opinion the economic freedom index is so helpful. Universities have long been infested with vermin who have parlayed defense of political popular views into invitations to the Cool Parties, Powerful Patronage, and the like. You need to re-educate yourself. https://www.reason.com/archives/2014/0…..-and-proud. What about the 49.99999% of the population that DOESN’T want it? And a key feature of Islamic law is that non-Muslims aren’t bound by it, even if they do live in the “House of Peace” – this was actually a significant factor in how the English East India Company was able to gain its footholds.
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